Please Submit Moderator Code Of Conduct Complaints About r/opensource
Cross posted from reddit.com as the request of this subreddit's mod:
The new r/opensource mod post and the actions since look, as best I can tell, like violations of Reddit's Moderator Code of Conduct. You can report it to Reddit here: support.reddithelp.com , though additional venues to report this issue might also exist.
Please write your own report rather than copy-pasting mine. Lots of identical reports can get treated as spam, and your own experience (especially if you were banned) is more useful to admins than a repeat of mine. Also, please don't go comment or vote in the original r/opensource thread because of this post. That can count as brigading, get this sub in trouble, and create issues with complaints about the sub filed to reddit.
That all being said, as a jumping-off point for others, this is the report that I personally filed:
> Hey,
>
> I'm writing to ask you to look into the head mod of r/opensource. Over the last day they've announced a policy of kicking out non-native English speakers, started handing out bans to anyone who disagrees with them, and effectively banned discussion of nearly all major open source software, all without any of it being in the subreddit rules.
>
> The incident started with this post yesterday: reddit.com. In it, the mod announced that AI-generated content is no longer allowed, including discussion of projects built with AI, and that anyone who posts or comments it will be permanently banned.
>
> **The discrimination:** The mod says in the thread, "If you don't speak English, you need to find a different community." This was announced out of nowhere, isn't in the rules, and is phrased as an overtly hostile "get out." I don't see how that's anything other than discriminatory, and pretty much every comment on the post calls it out as such.
>
> **The bans:** After the post, the mod started banning people who disagreed with the change, which, whatever your take on AI, was most of the community based on the comments. You can see it in the deleted comments on that thread and in the discussions on r/TrueOpenSource, a new subreddit that people created in response. The post also says, "If you post (or comment) things we don't want, such as the result of your LLM output tokens, you will never be welcome back." That's basically a promise to ban anyone at will. And even if they were only banning LLM-generated posts and comments, it would be impossible to enforce fairly, since there's no reliable way to tell whether something was written by a human or an LLM. That's still a major open research problem in computer science.
>
> **Banning the subreddit's own topic:** In practice, the main open source subreddit now bans discussion of almost all major open source software. Of the 30 largest Linux Foundation projects (insights.linuxfoundation.org), only one bans AI and one heavily restricts it. Among the top 100 most-starred GitHub projects (github.com/EvanLi/Github-Ranking/blob/master/Top1…), those same two are the only exceptions, out of a hundred. A subreddit about open source software that can't talk about virtually any major open source project isn't really functioning.
>
> Thanks for taking a look.
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Please Submit Moderator Code Of Conduct Complaints About r/opensource
The new r/opensource mod post and the actions since look, as best I can tell, like violations of Reddit's Moderator Code of Conduct. You can report it to Reddit here: support.reddithelp.com , though additional venues to report this issue might also exist.
Please write your own report rather than copy-pasting mine. Lots of identical reports can get treated as spam, and your own experience (especially if you were banned) is more useful to admins than a repeat of mine. Also, please don't go comment or vote in the original r/opensource thread because of this post. That can count as brigading, get this sub in trouble, and create issues with complaints about the sub filed to reddit.
That all being said, as a jumping-off point for others, this is the report that I personally filed:
> Hey,
>
> I'm writing to ask you to look into the head mod of r/opensource. Over the last day they've announced a policy of kicking out non-native English speakers, started handing out bans to anyone who disagrees with them, and effectively banned discussion of nearly all major open source software, all without any of it being in the subreddit rules.
>
> The incident started with this post yesterday: reddit.com. In it, the mod announced that AI-generated content is no longer allowed, including discussion of projects built with AI, and that anyone who posts or comments it will be permanently banned.
>
> **The discrimination:** The mod says in the thread, "If you don't speak English, you need to find a different community." This was announced out of nowhere, isn't in the rules, and is phrased as an overtly hostile "get out." I don't see how that's anything other than discriminatory, and pretty much every comment on the post calls it out as such.
>
> **The bans:** After the post, the mod started banning people who disagreed with the change, which, whatever your take on AI, was most of the community based on the comments. You can see it in the deleted comments on that thread and in the discussions on r/TrueOpenSource, a new subreddit that people created in response. The post also says, "If you post (or comment) things we don't want, such as the result of your LLM output tokens, you will never be welcome back." That's basically a promise to ban anyone at will. And even if they were only banning LLM-generated posts and comments, it would be impossible to enforce fairly, since there's no reliable way to tell whether something was written by a human or an LLM. That's still a major open research problem in computer science.
>
> **Banning the subreddit's own topic:** In practice, the main open source subreddit now bans discussion of almost all major open source software. Of the 30 largest Linux Foundation projects (insights.linuxfoundation.org), only one bans AI and one heavily restricts it. Among the top 100 most-starred GitHub projects (github.com/EvanLi/Github-Ranking/blob/master/Top1…), those same two are the only exceptions, out of a hundred. A subreddit about open source software that can't talk about virtually any major open source project isn't really functioning.
>
> Thanks for taking a look.
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Please Submit Moderator Code Of Conduct Complaints About r/opensource Cross posted from reddit.com as the request of this subreddit's mod: The new r/opensource mod post and the actions since look, as best I can tell, like violations of Reddit's Moderator Code of Conduct. You can report it to Reddit here: support.reddithelp.com , though additional venues to report this issue might also exist. Please write your own report rather than copy-pasting mine. Lots of identical reports can get treated as spam, and your own experience (especially if you were banned) is more useful to admins than a repeat of mine. Also, please don't go comment or vote in the original r/opensource thread because of this post. That can count as brigading, get this sub in trouble, and create issues with complaints about the sub filed to reddit. That all being said, as a jumping-off point for others, this is the report that I personally filed: > Hey, > > I'm writing to ask you to look into the head mod of r/opensource. Over the last day they've announced a policy of kicking out non-native English speakers, started handing out bans to anyone who disagrees with them, and effectively banned discussion of nearly all major open source software, all without any of it being in the subreddit rules. > > The incident started with this post yesterday: reddit.com. In it, the mod announced that AI-generated content is no longer allowed, including discussion of projects built with AI, and that anyone who posts or comments it will be permanently banned. > > **The discrimination:** The mod says in the thread, "If you don't speak English, you need to find a different community." This was announced out of nowhere, isn't in the rules, and is phrased as an overtly hostile "get out." I don't see how that's anything other than discriminatory, and pretty much every comment on the post calls it out as such. > > **The bans:** After the post, the mod started banning people who disagreed with the change, which, whatever your take on AI, was most of the community based on the comments. You can see it in the deleted comments on that thread and in the discussions on r/TrueOpenSource, a new subreddit that people created in response. The post also says, "If you post (or comment) things we don't want, such as the result of your LLM output tokens, you will never be welcome back." That's basically a promise to ban anyone at will. And even if they were only banning LLM-generated posts and comments, it would be impossible to enforce fairly, since there's no reliable way to tell whether something was written by a human or an LLM. That's still a major open research problem in computer science. > > **Banning the subreddit's own topic:** In practice, the main open source subreddit now bans discussion of almost all major open source software. Of the 30 largest Linux Foundation projects (insights.linuxfoundation.org), only one bans AI and one heavily restricts it. Among the top 100 most-starred GitHub projects (github.com/EvanLi/Github-Ranking/blob/master/Top1…), those same two are the only exceptions, out of a hundred. A subreddit about open source software that can't talk about virtually any major open source project isn't really functioning. > > Thanks for taking a look.
Please Submit Moderator Code Of Conduct Complaints About r/opensource The new r/opensource mod post and the actions since look, as best I can tell, like violations of Reddit's Moderator Code of Conduct. You can report it to Reddit here: support.reddithelp.com , though additional venues to report this issue might also exist. Please write your own report rather than copy-pasting mine. Lots of identical reports can get treated as spam, and your own experience (especially if you were banned) is more useful to admins than a repeat of mine. Also, please don't go comment or vote in the original r/opensource thread because of this post. That can count as brigading, get this sub in trouble, and create issues with complaints about the sub filed to reddit. That all being said, as a jumping-off point for others, this is the report that I personally filed: > Hey, > > I'm writing to ask you to look into the head mod of r/opensource. Over the last day they've announced a policy of kicking out non-native English speakers, started handing out bans to anyone who disagrees with them, and effectively banned discussion of nearly all major open source software, all without any of it being in the subreddit rules. > > The incident started with this post yesterday: reddit.com. In it, the mod announced that AI-generated content is no longer allowed, including discussion of projects built with AI, and that anyone who posts or comments it will be permanently banned. > > **The discrimination:** The mod says in the thread, "If you don't speak English, you need to find a different community." This was announced out of nowhere, isn't in the rules, and is phrased as an overtly hostile "get out." I don't see how that's anything other than discriminatory, and pretty much every comment on the post calls it out as such. > > **The bans:** After the post, the mod started banning people who disagreed with the change, which, whatever your take on AI, was most of the community based on the comments. You can see it in the deleted comments on that thread and in the discussions on r/TrueOpenSource, a new subreddit that people created in response. The post also says, "If you post (or comment) things we don't want, such as the result of your LLM output tokens, you will never be welcome back." That's basically a promise to ban anyone at will. And even if they were only banning LLM-generated posts and comments, it would be impossible to enforce fairly, since there's no reliable way to tell whether something was written by a human or an LLM. That's still a major open research problem in computer science. > > **Banning the subreddit's own topic:** In practice, the main open source subreddit now bans discussion of almost all major open source software. Of the 30 largest Linux Foundation projects (insights.linuxfoundation.org), only one bans AI and one heavily restricts it. Among the top 100 most-starred GitHub projects (github.com/EvanLi/Github-Ranking/blob/master/Top1…), those same two are the only exceptions, out of a hundred. A subreddit about open source software that can't talk about virtually any major open source project isn't really functioning. > > Thanks for taking a look.
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